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DarthFritzl
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:43 pm |
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I'd like to see a raffle of sorts for teams... a lot of us can't just throw hundreds of pounds to nail down the team we desperately want and the same lot go mental and take all the big sides.
Would be nice to see others get a chance even if that means in a fair automated draw that I get bognor Regis;)
At least it will make the game interesting with different managers at the helm of the big sides.
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dunky
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:04 pm |
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It sounds like the game mode is settled. Would love it if it was HFG, all legends ROTW
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muscles4851
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 9:30 pm |
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Admin wrote: Although it is called game of legends, any ex players can be added to the game. Earl Barrett, Igor Biscan and Paul Bracewell are a few examples of the players no everyone would consider legendary.
If there is any player you think should be in the game, whether they played for a team you are planning to manage or not, they can be added. Email the office rather than post a list on the forum as there may be other managers who are planning to scout or SPS that player. Just be aware, unless they were a one club man like Ryan Giggs, or someone who only played for one European team, like Steven Gerrard, they won’t necessarily be at the club you want.
Some players that were put in from the distant past, were done so based on a paragraph found on google. If there is a player you may be more familiar with that plays for a team you are going to manage, feel free to share your thoughts before the game is run, and they will be considered.
But to be clear, no players will be moved to other clubs or have their stats changed once the game has started. This has already been mentioned and I'd just like to touch on it again. I would love a chance to manage Man Utd, Barca, Madrid etc etc etc but I do not have the money to throw £400 at them. A raffle system might work. Minimum buy into this raffle could be 1 season ticket. A manageable sum for 99% of participants. The same managers get the big teams and we should try and give others a chance.
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:44 pm |
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I think the raffle / name generator to allocate teams is a good idea and one I would be up for.
Minimum buy in of a season ticket would see more teams throughout all leagues managed as opposed to just all the big Name teams taken up.
Perhaps a poll could be run to see how everyone else feels.
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MAN CITY 123
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 10:53 pm |
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The problem is getting people to spend higher means two things-
1) UE make more money up front which helps pay the bills (it is a business after all).
2) The more people that pay for 2+ season tickets up front the more they are committed to the game which aids longevity. This style of game is new and let's face it it may not work out but by getting more people paying for over a season now it will protect it being a flop after one season, which wouldn't be cost effective for all the work required to launch it.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not pro paying loads myself but I can see why that's a favoured option for them.
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:03 pm |
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thegulls wrote: The problem is getting people to spend higher means two things-
1) UE make more money up front which helps pay the bills (it is a business after all).
2) The more people that pay for 2+ season tickets up front the more they are committed to the game which aids longevity. This style of game is new and let's face it it may not work out but by getting more people paying for over a season now it will protect it being a flop after one season, which wouldn't be cost effective for all the work required to launch it.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not pro paying loads myself but I can see why that's a favoured option for them. i think more guys will take up the option to buy a season ticket knowing they have a chance to land a Real Madrid or Barcelona etc. I honestly see more teams being managed if the raffle was done.
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:07 pm |
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For what it's worth I don't disagree but that doesn't protect against the game ending early if it's not as good as we hope. Larger buy in at the start does guard against that and guarantees a core group playing for 2-3 seasons.
If UE went for the draw out of a hat idea though that's fine with me, I don't mind either way.
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:26 pm |
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One concern I (and a few others) have had is how high all players will be from the start and such a pool of top players to cherry pick from ROTW. It could feel like season in 117 from day one.
Do you have a plan for that please Ben?
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dunky
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:57 pm |
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Good shout will. Players at the beginning with lower OA than normal. And slowing down rises, maybe in spells throughout the season could help balance it, and keep the game extremely active on the transfer front.
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dunky
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Posted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 11:59 pm |
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Another suggestion is no points in season 1. If UE are going to balance squads, no points could be a good thing
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Harryefc
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:02 am |
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Couple of thoughts
I'm not too sure how adding legends with high ratings and then low potential would work. Almost puts a downer upon them that they won't increase much.
maybe the legends shouldn't come in as massively rated but come with the guarantee that they will turn into a legend, like a Special kind of legend pot added to them. So they can increase gradually like normal players but they have pot added, the better legends will be still eventually become some of the best rated. Just an idea.
Also it might be an idea to limit the amount of legends added. Or ue points could be used to add one/create.
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:07 am |
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From what is seems itl remain lower statistic players, so guys like Maradona, Pele will start the same stats as the best players do normally so same as your Messi's and Ronaldo's. As regards to the auction, im happy with it being an auction as UE are a business and with Ben now doing all the stats and updating himself it surely needs to be lucrative for him. As Ben stated that many of the legends will be scattered around the smaller clubs so to me that is a great thing for the smaller sides who will also have points as well. So i can imagine guys like Gazza being at Rangers, Lineker at Leicester, Shearer at Blackburn. So i deffo don't think there is any need to scrap the auction. Its will just be Barca now with a legend chucked in with their usual debt they have to clear then smaller sides with a few legends and points. Sounds a good hand to me.
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muscles4851
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:13 am |
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dunky wrote: Another suggestion is no points in season 1. If UE are going to balance squads, no points could be a good thing If lower teams don't get points then I can't see the point in playing TBH. Big clubs will not sell. Fact. It has been stated that they will be -25 max. Why would they sell. Lower teams with no points are just not attractive. Big money to pay for a team = higher chance of success.
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:30 am |
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muscles4851 wrote: dunky wrote: Another suggestion is no points in season 1. If UE are going to balance squads, no points could be a good thing If lower teams don't get points then I can't see the point in playing TBH. Big clubs will not sell. Fact. It has been stated that they will be -25 max. Why would they sell. Lower teams with no points are just not attractive. Big money to pay for a team = higher chance of success. Agreed with this, but on the flip side of it you tend to get 'friends' dealing with each other and/or prioritising deals with certain managers which isn't fair. A common trait in EFG's sadly. So at least with an auction its fair game.
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dunky
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:30 am |
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muscles4851 wrote: dunky wrote: Another suggestion is no points in season 1. If UE are going to balance squads, no points could be a good thing If lower teams don't get points then I can't see the point in playing TBH. Big clubs will not sell. Fact. It has been stated that they will be -25 max. Why would they sell. Lower teams with no points are just not attractive. Big money to pay for a team = higher chance of success. I only say that going on that teams will be balanced
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:27 pm |
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muscles4851 wrote: This has already been mentioned and I'd just like to touch on it again. I would love a chance to manage Man Utd, Barca, Madrid etc etc etc but I do not have the money to throw £400 at them. A raffle system might work. Minimum buy into this raffle could be 1 season ticket. A manageable sum for 99% of participants.
The same managers get the big teams and we should try and give others a chance. DarthFritzl wrote: I'd like to see a raffle of sorts for teams... a lot of us can't just throw hundreds of pounds to nail down the team we desperately want and the same lot go mental and take all the big sides.
Would be nice to see others get a chance even if that means in a fair automated draw that I get bognor Regis;)
At least it will make the game interesting with different managers at the helm of the big sides. Inverness 117 wrote: I think the raffle / name generator to allocate teams is a good idea and one I would be up for.
Minimum buy in of a season ticket would see more teams throughout all leagues managed as opposed to just all the big Name teams taken up.
Perhaps a poll could be run to see how everyone else feels. thegulls wrote: The problem is getting people to spend higher means two things-
1) UE make more money up front which helps pay the bills (it is a business after all).
2) The more people that pay for 2+ season tickets up front the more they are committed to the game which aids longevity. This style of game is new and let's face it it may not work out but by getting more people paying for over a season now it will protect it being a flop after one season, which wouldn't be cost effective for all the work required to launch it.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not pro paying loads myself but I can see why that's a favoured option for them. As Will said, the more people commit to playing for 2+ seasons the healthier the game will be in the long run. And this is a business, and there are bills to pay. Part of the reason the game is set up the way it is, is that teams like PSV (who might have Ronaldo and Romario up front), Ajax (who will have Rijkaard and Van Basten), Milan (Maldini and Baresi), as well as many other legendary players, will be much closer to the Man Utds, Real Madrids and Liverpools of this world. But if you want a chance of managing one of the traditional big teams I can offer you this: Get ten or more managers together, each willing to put in for 1 season ticket each. One of you will be guaranteed to manage one of the following: Real Madrid Barcelona Man Utd Man City Chelsea Liverpool Arsenal Tottenham Juventus Bayern Munich The other 9 will be put in the same division as eachother.
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:28 pm |
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thegulls wrote: One concern I (and a few others) have had is how high all players will be from the start and such a pool of top players to cherry pick from ROTW. It could feel like season in 117 from day one.
Do you have a plan for that please Ben? Legends have been put in and compared with each other and current players so they look right, and the evaluation formula has been changed so Paolo Maldini and George Best are worth what they might be worth in today's market. There will be a higher standard of player than in recent games.
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themouth1888 wrote: I'm maybe not 100% getting this so say I was to bid on Barcelona would I start off with current Barca squad and no legends or I could perhaps have someone like Stoichkov thrown in?
I'm taking this as the legends are put into smaller teams? Is this to make them more attractive to managers?
Thanks Some of the legends Barcelona will start definitely start with (there are more in the database): Puyol Joan Segarra - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_SegarraMigueli - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MigueliPaulino Alcántara - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulino_Alc%C3%A1ntaraThey will probably have Luis Enrique (he could play for Real Madrid, but it looks like they will have a higher team value than Barcelona at the moment. If Sporting Gijon are in a managable league, we will play for them instead.) They might have Albert Ferrer, Pedro, and several others. Some of the current players they will lose to teams they used to play for: Andre Gomes to Boavista Jordi Alba to Valencia Rakitic to FC Basel Turan to Galatasaray Dennis to Villareal They might lose Luis Suarez to Ajax or Liverpool, both teams will have very high squad values, so it's difficult to say who he will play for. If Groningen are in a managed league, he will move there. Hristo Stoichkov will play for CSKA Sofia, as things stand.
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:42 pm |
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Harryefc wrote: Couple of thoughts
I'm not too sure how adding legends with high ratings and then low potential would work. Almost puts a downer upon them that they won't increase much.
maybe the legends shouldn't come in as massively rated but come with the guarantee that they will turn into a legend, like a Special kind of legend pot added to them. So they can increase gradually like normal players but they have pot added, the better legends will be still eventually become some of the best rated. Just an idea.
Also it might be an idea to limit the amount of legends added. Or ue points could be used to add one/create. The legends can still improve, and the possibility of managers being able to put potential on them with UE points hasn't been ruled out. But there is a question mark over it, and I'm going to see what managers think about that issue. The plan is to add lots of legends rather than limiting them.
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Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2017 12:50 pm |
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Admin wrote: muscles4851 wrote: This has already been mentioned and I'd just like to touch on it again. I would love a chance to manage Man Utd, Barca, Madrid etc etc etc but I do not have the money to throw £400 at them. A raffle system might work. Minimum buy into this raffle could be 1 season ticket. A manageable sum for 99% of participants.
The same managers get the big teams and we should try and give others a chance. DarthFritzl wrote: I'd like to see a raffle of sorts for teams... a lot of us can't just throw hundreds of pounds to nail down the team we desperately want and the same lot go mental and take all the big sides.
Would be nice to see others get a chance even if that means in a fair automated draw that I get bognor Regis;)
At least it will make the game interesting with different managers at the helm of the big sides. Inverness 117 wrote: I think the raffle / name generator to allocate teams is a good idea and one I would be up for.
Minimum buy in of a season ticket would see more teams throughout all leagues managed as opposed to just all the big Name teams taken up.
Perhaps a poll could be run to see how everyone else feels. thegulls wrote: The problem is getting people to spend higher means two things-
1) UE make more money up front which helps pay the bills (it is a business after all).
2) The more people that pay for 2+ season tickets up front the more they are committed to the game which aids longevity. This style of game is new and let's face it it may not work out but by getting more people paying for over a season now it will protect it being a flop after one season, which wouldn't be cost effective for all the work required to launch it.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not pro paying loads myself but I can see why that's a favoured option for them. As Will said, the more people commit to playing for 2+ seasons the healthier the game will be in the long run. And this is a business, and there are bills to pay. Part of the reason the game is set up the way it is, is that teams like PSV (who might have Ronaldo and Romario up front), Ajax (who will have Rijkaard and Van Basten), Milan (Maldini and Baresi), as well as many other legendary players, will be much closer to the Man Utds, Real Madrids and Liverpools of this world. But if you want a chance of managing one of the traditional big teams I can offer you this: Get ten or more managers together, each willing to put in for 1 season ticket each. One of you will be guaranteed to manage one of the following: Real Madrid Barcelona Man Utd Man City Chelsea Liverpool Arsenal Tottenham Juventus Bayern Munich The other 9 will be put in the same division as eachother. Do you mean just 1 will get 1 of those teams?
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