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 Post Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:56 pm 
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WbZ wrote:
This player limiting is throwing up a few qs!
If for example, a Haaland or Foden can't be purchased during the season, will those players all be available as part of EOS offers, like is the case today?

Some managers get a buzz off a name, so is it also a consideration to make it 32 (34 for Gks) as opposed to the 34/37 you'd previously listed? - Just increases the market pool of possibles


I like this idea and makes sense. Would make me thinking of joining to actually joining. I'm all about the names and as it stands cant see how the game is for me and I know a few others the same. I get that there are managers who don't care about names mind you.

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Teams in one of the 5 European Leagues will only be available if the are 34+ or less than £3M in value. All players from teams not in a league will all be available. There are 90 English teams not in the UK League for example, all of their players will be available as usual.


Hi Ben,

I think I must be tired as I'm still not getting this... OK, I'm managing River Plate in Argentina. I scout Man City. De Bruyne is there and he's, let's say, a 101OA player and he's 26yo. Can I buy him?


No.

Only players who are 34 or older (or under £3M max price) will be available to buy from the European Leagues.


So is that just for the players at teams in the background league? Everyone else is fair game if not in a league?

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 Post Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 1:58 pm 
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WbZ wrote:
This player limiting is throwing up a few qs!
If for example, a Haaland or Foden can't be purchased during the season, will those players all be available as part of EOS offers, like is the case today?

Some managers get a buzz off a name, so is it also a consideration to make it 32 (34 for Gks) as opposed to the 34/37 you'd previously listed? - Just increases the market pool of possibles


I like this idea and makes sense. Would make me thinking of joining to actually joining. I'm all about the names and as it stands cant see how the game is for me and I know a few others the same. I get that there are managers who don't care about names mind you.


I understand the other side of the coin though - you make those players freely available, and it means the OAs/PVs are instantly skewed

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 Post Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 2:15 pm 
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With 124 being Hard Format, before bidding starts could we have a rough idea on the better teams as some like to start in debt. Some like money and Ue points. I dont want to pay 240quid and end up with a team were i have to sell everyone.


Exactly the same for me but the other way around wouldn’t want to pay 240 odd either and find I’d got a team that needs improvement.

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WbZ wrote:
This player limiting is throwing up a few qs!
If for example, a Haaland or Foden can't be purchased during the season, will those players all be available as part of EOS offers, like is the case today?


No.


WbZ wrote:
Some managers get a buzz off a name, so is it also a consideration to make it 32 (34 for Gks) as opposed to the 34/37 you'd previously listed? - Just increases the market pool of possibles


I considered 32 and 33, and it felt that the game would be to much about the older players if it was set up that way. There are some good 34 players available from the start, but most of them already play in Saudi or the US.

Then some will be available once season 2 starts, another batch when season 3 starts, etc.

And if you sign a 34 year old there is a chance they'll need more maintenance. There is a chance they'll go down or retire at the EOS, and Karma will be more limited than it has been in other games.

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"So is that just for the players at teams in the background league? Everyone else is fair game if not in a league?"


Yes, all the players from teams who aren't in a league will be available to be signed.

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Martin B wrote:
Fozzie wrote:
With 124 being Hard Format, before bidding starts could we have a rough idea on the better teams as some like to start in debt. Some like money and Ue points. I dont want to pay 240quid and end up with a team were i have to sell everyone.


Exactly the same for me but the other way around wouldn’t want to pay 240 odd either and find I’d got a team that needs improvement.


All teams always need improvement.

Al-Hilal, Al-Nassr and Palmeras are the highest three, but I don't think any of them will be as much as £100M in debt.

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 Post Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:12 pm 
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Hi Ben,

Really interesting set up and will be joining. So can you clarify that unless the game lasts until season 10 for example, Mbappe cannot be signed?

Or will there be any leeway to suggestions that some top players could be brought somehow?

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 Post Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 3:22 pm 
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Dan_139 wrote:
Hi Ben,

Really interesting set up and will be joining. So can you clarify that unless the game lasts until season 10 for example, Mbappe cannot be signed?

Or will there be any leeway to suggestions that some top players could be brought somehow?


If anyone wants to start a discussion (on a different thread) about relaxing or lowering the age limit say from season 4 onwards that is something I would be open to, and did consider.

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Dan_139 wrote:
Hi Ben,

Really interesting set up and will be joining. So can you clarify that unless the game lasts until season 10 for example, Mbappe cannot be signed?

Or will there be any leeway to suggestions that some top players could be brought somehow?


If anyone wants to start a discussion (on a different thread) about relaxing or lowering the age limit say from season 4 onwards that is something I would be open to, and did consider.


Thanks for considering it. I've started a new thread here: viewtopic.php?f=284&t=77498 to open up this discussion around player availability

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 Post subject: Re: Game 124
 Post Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 4:52 pm 
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A few managers have emailed about number of divisions in 124 and which teams might be available.

The divisions for the test that I have been running are below. It is rough and can change, but can give an idea of what the divisions might be like.

Asian Div 1


Al-Arabi - (Saudi Arabia)
Al-Fateh SC - (Saudi Arabia)
Al-Hilal - (Saudi Arabia)
Al-Nassr - (Saudi Arabia)
Al-Taawoun - (Saudi Arabia)
Chengdu Rongcheng - (China)
Damac FC - (Saudi Arabia)
Sanfrecce Hiroshima - (Japan)
Shandong Taishan - (China)
Shanghai Port - (China)
Urawa Red Diamonds - (Japan)
Vissel Kobe - (Japan)
Yokohama Marinos - (Japan)
Zhejiang - (China)

Div 2

Al-Ettifaq - (Saudi Arabia)
Al-Ittihad - (Saudi Arabia)
Cerezo Osaka - (Japan)
Esteghlal - (Iran)
FC Seoul - (South Korea)
Henan FC - (China)
Kashima Antlers - (Japan)
Nagoya Grampus - (Japan)
Perspolis - (Iran)
Pohang Steelers - (South Korea)
Shanghai Shenhua - (China)
Suwon Bluewings - (South Korea)
Wuhan Three Towns - (China)
Zob-Ahan - (Iran)

Div 3


Al-Ahli - (Saudi Arabia)
Al-Jazira - (Saudi Arabia)
Al-Rayyan - (Saudi Arabia)
Al-Sadd - (Saudi Arabia)
Al-Shabab - (Saudi Arabia)
Albirex Fukuoka - (Japan)
Cangzhou Mighty Lions - (China)
Gamba Osaka - (Japan)
Guangzhou FC - (China)
JEF United - (Japan)
Shandong - (China)
Shimizu S-Pulse - (Japan)
Tianjin Jinmen Tiger FC - (China)

Div 4

Al-Tae - (Saudi Arabia)
Al-Wahda - (Saudi Arabia)
Beijing Sinoba Guoan - (China)
Emirates Club - (Saudi Arabia)
Hatta Club - (Saudi Arabia)
Ittihad Kalba - (Saudi Arabia)
Kashiwa Reysol - (Japan)
Khor Fakkan - (Saudi Arabia)
Kyoto Sanga - (Japan)
Shenzhen FC - (China)
Vegalta Sendai - (Japan)
Yokohama FC - (Japan)
FC Tokyo - (Japan)
Omiya Ardija - (Japan)
Tokyo Verdy - (Japan)





North American Div 1

Atlanta Utd FC - (America)
Columbus Crew - (America)
FC Cincinnati - (America)
FC Dallas - (America)
Houston Dynamo - (America)
Los Angeles FC - (America)
Monterrey - (Mexico)
Nashville SC - (America)
New England Revolution - (America)
Orlando City - (America)
Philadelphia Union - (America)
Real Salt Lake - (America)
Seattle Sounders - (America)
Vancouver Whitecaps - (America)

Div 2

Charlotte FC - (America)
Chicago Fire - (America)
Colorado Rapids - (America)
DC United - (America)
Inter Miami - (America)
Los Angeles Galaxy - (America)
New York City FC - (America)
New York Red Bulls - (America)
Portland Timbers - (America)
Sporting Kansas City - (America)
St Louis FC - (America)
Tigres UANL - (Mexico)
Toronto FC - (America)
UNAM Pumas - (Mexico)

Div 3

Alajuelense - (Costa Rica)
Atlante - (Mexico)
Atlas Guadalajara - (Mexico)
Austin FC - (America)
Cruz Azul - (Mexico)
Deportivo Guadalajara - (Mexico)
Dorados de Sinaloa - (Mexico)
Herediano - (Costa Rica)
Minnesota United FC - (America)
Montreal Impact - (America)
Necaxa - (Mexico)
San Jose E'quakes - (America)
San Luis - (Mexico)
Tivoli Gardens - (Jamaica)

Div 4

Arnett Gardens - (Jamaica)
Carmelita - (Costa Rica)
Deportivo Saprissa - (Costa Rica)
Deportivo Toluca - (Mexico)
Harbour View - (Jamaica)
Morelia - (Mexico)
Pachuca - (Mexico)
Perez Zeledon - (Costa Rica)
Puebla - (Mexico)
Puntarenas FC - (Costa Rica)
San Carlos - (Costa Rica)
Santos Laguna - (Mexico)
Waterhouse - (Jamaica)
Limon Black Star - (Costa Rica)





South American Div 1

Atletico Mineiro - (Brazil)
Banfield - (Argentina)
Boca Juniors - (Argentina)
Botafogo - (Brazil)
CA Huracán - (Argentina)
Flamengo - (Brazil)
Fluminese - (Brazil)
Gremio - (Brazil)
Palmeiras - (Brazil)
Penarol - (Uruguay)
Racing Club - (Argentina)
Red Bull Bragantino - (Brazil)
River Plate - (Argentina)
Rosario Central - (Argentina)

Div 2

Club Libertad Asunción - (Paraguay)
Colo Colo - (Chile)
Corinthians - (Brazil)
Danubio - (Uruguay)
Deportivo Cali - (Columbia)
Estudiantes - (Argentina)
Fortaleza - (Brazil)
Huachipato - (Chile)
Internacional - (Brazil)
Millonarios - (Columbia)
Newell`s Old Boys - (Argentina)
San Lorenzo de Almagro - (Argentina)
Sao Paulo - (Brazil)
Velez Sarsfield - (Argentina)

Div 3

Argentinos Juniors - (Argentina)
Atl Paranaense - (Brazil)
CA Sarmiento - (Argentina)
Cerro Porteno - (Paraguay)
Cobresal - (Chile)
Defensor Sporting Club - (Uruguay)
Godoy Cruz Antonio Tomba - (Argentina)
Guarani - (Paraguay)
Independiente Medellin - (Columbia)
La Equidad - (Columbia)
Palestino - (Chile)
Santos - (Brazil)
Tacuary - (Paraguay)
Vasco da Gama - (Brazil)

Div 4

Bolívar La Paz - (Bolivia)
CA Boston River - (Uruguay)
Cruzeiro - (Brazil)
Deportes Tolima - (Columbia)
Envigado - (Columbia)
Goias - (Brazil)
Independiente - (Argentina)
La Plata - (Argentina)
Lanus - (Argentina)
Nublense - (Chile)
O'Higgins - (Chile)
Rionegro Águilas - (Columbia)
Sport Recife - (Brazil)
The Strongest La Paz - (Bolivia)

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 Post subject: Re: Game 124
 Post Posted: Fri Mar 15, 2024 5:55 pm 
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Both teams I am interested in are in Division 3, nice :) Something to work on :)

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This game is going to be the best 1 by far. A HFG with different teams will be awesome & looking forward to playing it.

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This game is going to be the best 1 by far. A HFG with different teams will be awesome & looking forward to playing it.

My thoughts Exactly, cant wait for 124 :D

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 Post Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 10:29 am 
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Ben.

One thing that's always niggled at me but isn't a massive issue is United States players nationality abbreviated to 'AME'. This means they are American with refers to anyone from Canada all the way down to Argentina/Chile and everything in between. Its like having Andy Robertson 'EUR' European rather than 'SCO' Scottish.
I suppose what I'm asking as there is obviously going to be alot of USA players in this game, if its no trouble, can you please change players with AME to USA.

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 Post Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 11:41 am 
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Ben,

For the untrainables you say most players will start with no more than 25 do you expect this to be just for season 1 only or do you think this might be the way (mostly) for the duration of the game?

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Can I ask that the list of teams that be scouted be updated as there's still ones which we can't scout though are present in games.

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 Post Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 1:56 pm 
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or players who have a max value of less than £3M will be available to be signed from these leagues.


Just a thought around this part, will all players via ROTW (including European) scouting display their max value, as opposed to a random figure (if under 50mil) if this is the rule?

We've seen in previous games that a player might have a value of say, 60k in a ROTW scout, but then an actual value of about 30mil - or is this going to be kept secret so those who can calculate max have that advantage?

And 2nd question on this, if a player is 35 years old, for example, but has a value of 6m, I take it they cannot be purchased?

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Shane the podcast ended would’ve been a good way to have talked through the new games and rules

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 Post Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2024 3:44 pm 
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A few managers have emailed about number of divisions in 124 and which teams might be available.

The divisions for the test that I have been running are below. It is rough and can change, but can give an idea of what the divisions might be like.

Asian Div 1


Al-Arabi - (Saudi Arabia)
Al-Fateh SC - (Saudi Arabia)
Al-Hilal - (Saudi Arabia)
Al-Nassr - (Saudi Arabia)
Al-Taawoun - (Saudi Arabia)
Chengdu Rongcheng - (China)
Damac FC - (Saudi Arabia)
Sanfrecce Hiroshima - (Japan)
Shandong Taishan - (China)
Shanghai Port - (China)
Urawa Red Diamonds - (Japan)
Vissel Kobe - (Japan)
Yokohama Marinos - (Japan)
Zhejiang - (China)

Div 2

Al-Ettifaq - (Saudi Arabia)
Al-Ittihad - (Saudi Arabia)
Cerezo Osaka - (Japan)
Esteghlal - (Iran)
FC Seoul - (South Korea)
Henan FC - (China)
Kashima Antlers - (Japan)
Nagoya Grampus - (Japan)
Perspolis - (Iran)
Pohang Steelers - (South Korea)
Shanghai Shenhua - (China)
Suwon Bluewings - (South Korea)
Wuhan Three Towns - (China)
Zob-Ahan - (Iran)

Div 3


Al-Ahli - (Saudi Arabia)
Al-Jazira - (Saudi Arabia)
Al-Rayyan - (Saudi Arabia)
Al-Sadd - (Saudi Arabia)
Al-Shabab - (Saudi Arabia)
Albirex Fukuoka - (Japan)
Cangzhou Mighty Lions - (China)
Gamba Osaka - (Japan)
Guangzhou FC - (China)
JEF United - (Japan)
Shandong - (China)
Shimizu S-Pulse - (Japan)
Tianjin Jinmen Tiger FC - (China)

Div 4

Al-Tae - (Saudi Arabia)
Al-Wahda - (Saudi Arabia)
Beijing Sinoba Guoan - (China)
Emirates Club - (Saudi Arabia)
Hatta Club - (Saudi Arabia)
Ittihad Kalba - (Saudi Arabia)
Kashiwa Reysol - (Japan)
Khor Fakkan - (Saudi Arabia)
Kyoto Sanga - (Japan)
Shenzhen FC - (China)
Vegalta Sendai - (Japan)
Yokohama FC - (Japan)
FC Tokyo - (Japan)
Omiya Ardija - (Japan)
Tokyo Verdy - (Japan)





North American Div 1

Atlanta Utd FC - (America)
Columbus Crew - (America)
FC Cincinnati - (America)
FC Dallas - (America)
Houston Dynamo - (America)
Los Angeles FC - (America)
Monterrey - (Mexico)
Nashville SC - (America)
New England Revolution - (America)
Orlando City - (America)
Philadelphia Union - (America)
Real Salt Lake - (America)
Seattle Sounders - (America)
Vancouver Whitecaps - (America)

Div 2

Charlotte FC - (America)
Chicago Fire - (America)
Colorado Rapids - (America)
DC United - (America)
Inter Miami - (America)
Los Angeles Galaxy - (America)
New York City FC - (America)
New York Red Bulls - (America)
Portland Timbers - (America)
Sporting Kansas City - (America)
St Louis FC - (America)
Tigres UANL - (Mexico)
Toronto FC - (America)
UNAM Pumas - (Mexico)

Div 3

Alajuelense - (Costa Rica)
Atlante - (Mexico)
Atlas Guadalajara - (Mexico)
Austin FC - (America)
Cruz Azul - (Mexico)
Deportivo Guadalajara - (Mexico)
Dorados de Sinaloa - (Mexico)
Herediano - (Costa Rica)
Minnesota United FC - (America)
Montreal Impact - (America)
Necaxa - (Mexico)
San Jose E'quakes - (America)
San Luis - (Mexico)
Tivoli Gardens - (Jamaica)

Div 4

Arnett Gardens - (Jamaica)
Carmelita - (Costa Rica)
Deportivo Saprissa - (Costa Rica)
Deportivo Toluca - (Mexico)
Harbour View - (Jamaica)
Morelia - (Mexico)
Pachuca - (Mexico)
Perez Zeledon - (Costa Rica)
Puebla - (Mexico)
Puntarenas FC - (Costa Rica)
San Carlos - (Costa Rica)
Santos Laguna - (Mexico)
Waterhouse - (Jamaica)
Limon Black Star - (Costa Rica)





South American Div 1

Atletico Mineiro - (Brazil)
Banfield - (Argentina)
Boca Juniors - (Argentina)
Botafogo - (Brazil)
CA Huracán - (Argentina)
Flamengo - (Brazil)
Fluminese - (Brazil)
Gremio - (Brazil)
Palmeiras - (Brazil)
Penarol - (Uruguay)
Racing Club - (Argentina)
Red Bull Bragantino - (Brazil)
River Plate - (Argentina)
Rosario Central - (Argentina)

Div 2

Club Libertad Asunción - (Paraguay)
Colo Colo - (Chile)
Corinthians - (Brazil)
Danubio - (Uruguay)
Deportivo Cali - (Columbia)
Estudiantes - (Argentina)
Fortaleza - (Brazil)
Huachipato - (Chile)
Internacional - (Brazil)
Millonarios - (Columbia)
Newell`s Old Boys - (Argentina)
San Lorenzo de Almagro - (Argentina)
Sao Paulo - (Brazil)
Velez Sarsfield - (Argentina)

Div 3

Argentinos Juniors - (Argentina)
Atl Paranaense - (Brazil)
CA Sarmiento - (Argentina)
Cerro Porteno - (Paraguay)
Cobresal - (Chile)
Defensor Sporting Club - (Uruguay)
Godoy Cruz Antonio Tomba - (Argentina)
Guarani - (Paraguay)
Independiente Medellin - (Columbia)
La Equidad - (Columbia)
Palestino - (Chile)
Santos - (Brazil)
Tacuary - (Paraguay)
Vasco da Gama - (Brazil)

Div 4

Bolívar La Paz - (Bolivia)
CA Boston River - (Uruguay)
Cruzeiro - (Brazil)
Deportes Tolima - (Columbia)
Envigado - (Columbia)
Goias - (Brazil)
Independiente - (Argentina)
La Plata - (Argentina)
Lanus - (Argentina)
Nublense - (Chile)
O'Higgins - (Chile)
Rionegro Águilas - (Columbia)
Sport Recife - (Brazil)
The Strongest La Paz - (Bolivia)



ill have anyone from south american div 4 ben....dont care who!

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