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I personally don't agree with a moderator, they do nothing now so cant see them doing anything then. Also can cause arguments especially if a moderator acts a total bellwhiffer. Deleting people's posts isn't the way in my opinion, that should be down to admin and admin only. Whatsapp is one of the reasons the game is less fair for non users which is why this idea is being brought in to play.

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This makes a great deal of sense if the person is an actuve user and runs everything through Ben.

I like the thoughy of gaining karma for participating in side games and the main sections, but I don't thinm its right to reward random posts for peoples opinions and thoughts, but thats just me.

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GAME 114 - TOULOUSE & MALAGA

Well maybe non users should become users? Surely everyone has a smart phone these days? Unless they live in a cave!
Whatsapp simply enables swifter negotiations but its offset by that you can agree quickly and later somethimg better can be posted on the forum, which can be annoying! So its swings and roundabouts really! Some benefits and pitfuls to both whatsapp and forum I guess.

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GAME 114 - TOULOUSE & MALAGA

Whatsapp is a bit hit and miss because a lot of banter can take place and unfortunately it's not everyone's cup of tea.

I'd also say in the event of a mod becoming a 'bellwhiffer' that I'm sure UE would remove that person immediately.

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Wolfsburg 108, Las Palmas 112, Arsenal 114 and Torino/Molde 119

We have moderators in the game but the reason that they do nothing is because they actually are unable to do anything. All 'powers' were removed from the moderators a long while ago.
If a moderator had a defined role and the ability to carry that out then it might be a more functional position.

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Dinamo Tbilisi 122

That makes a lot of sense and would ease the burdern on ben.

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GAME 114 - TOULOUSE & MALAGA

Again not a fan of the moderators, should be just Ben and maybe Mark if Ben decides he needs assistance. You just know both guys would be 100% impartial. Thats if deleting posts get the go ahead. I mean why would you need to delete posts if Ben has already succumb to your request of only certain sections being rewarded? You cant have it all your ways.

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Game 123 (EFG) - Notts County
Game 124 (HFG) - Al Nassr

this argument although constructive is as always going around in circles people post something,somebody disagrees,the original guy reposts just imagine if karma points were issued for this thats why conversations like this should not be included in karma points the list i put up early makes sense to me

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HISTORY

GAMES PLAYED..........X 10
LEAGUE TITLES.........X 6
OTHER PROMOTIONS..X 12
DOMESTIC CUP WINS X 6
EURO/UEFA /SUPPER CUP WINS X 4

Well it's all about discussing. How about this?

Submit mds - 20 points
Post turn sent - 10 points
Post in fixture section - 15 points
Postin results section your write up - 25 points
Posts in general section on game forums - 1 point each, no points for main screen forum.
Cash sales and swap threads that resulted in completed deals - 10 points per deal completed
Club thread posters - 5 points per post
Post in press releases - 25 points
Forum cup participation - 10 points with a further 20 for the winner
Running any section and completing each task for example a hour with or completing the rag mag - 25 points

Those are posts qbove, but if you were to create the thread that would gain you an extra 10 points.

Then lose karma for.....

Attempting to start trouble or to bully and name call a fellow manager - 50 points
Thread hijacking - 20 points
Posting in someone's thread off topic - 10 points
Failure to follow through an agreed deal - 30 points
Not sending your mds - 25

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Game 124 (HFG) - Al Nassr

To keep it simple there should only be 3 or 4 things you should have to do every week to earn your karma points, it is unfair the people whose lives don't 100% revolve around ue.

Submit mds - xx points
Post in team news - xx points
Postin results section your write up - xx points

perhaps one other section, i don't agree for getting karma points for sending your turn or should you have to be forced to sell or swap a play, if that comes in people who have a settled team will just post 5m players up to get karma points and i don't blame them!


What i am concerned about is how quick the points can be earned, you say 1000 karma points allows you to put on versatility, so surely as it is so valuable it should take a lot of graft and at least 2 seasons to earn as this could add 50.80,100m to the right player?

i don't think anyone should be rewarded for running any sort of cups as there are certain people i would rather burn in hell than play in anything they organise, so why should i lose out as that person is running a cup purely for karma points, especially as i have a very good reason for not playing in anything they organise!

i am 100% behind getting the forum running as i think it is an integral part of the game but it will never be like it was as whats app is the modern day forum, but i am up for anything aslong as it is who posts the most gets rewarded the most, people who actually work long hours will lose out and its hardly there problem that some lifless idiot is posting drivel all day long , as i just came on and saw two posts at 5am ...................wtf!!!

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Ath Madrid 122

I think you are spot on mate, ive read many comments now calling those who dont post crap 24/7 as bring 'lazy',
Well unfortunately some people have jobs and families!
I try to put in the time in ue and even gave whatsapp a 2nd try, but I dont think I should be at a disadvantage just because I actually have a life and a daughter to take care of with my misses.

This hands a massive unfair advantage to a select few.
Karma should be selected post as liverpool and darth have posted on threads.

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GAME 114 - TOULOUSE & MALAGA

The thing is if you choose not to partake for personal reasons then that's your fault, no one else's. So your actually cutting your nose off to spite your own face. A lot of what your saying is purely personal.

As regards to the posts at 5am, i dont think it was me this time but i actually work nights and as a result suffer with insomnia on times, i also know of a few others who work nights as well who pop online and mad o clock, why should we get punished just because we don't work that many days? why shouldnt we post when we want? That's totally unfair to punish us. End of the day if Joe Bloggs want to come on and post at mental o clock or spend his life on the forum, that's up to him. Who are we to slate that? So again here i think your getting personal to those guys. It should be equal to EVERYONE!

It seems my point a few days ago has proven accurate, the longest serving forum members who dont post that much and only stick to some sections don't want all posts rewarded and prefer whatsapp with the less experienced happy to go along with everything else with minor tweeks. Pretty unfortunate that.

I do want to ask, as no one has answered it when asked previously. SPECIFICALLY, What threads and posts do you class as drivel on the game(s) forum?

Nantes, i didnt call anyone lazy nor did it use the term lazy to describe people who dont post 24/7, to post that much would be impossible. I used to term 'lazy' in reference to the 'cba' attitude.. If you have a family and children then obviously you're going to prioritise them, but for those who dont have those things they will prioritise other things like the forum, so they should be allowed to be rewarded as a result? That's all im saying.

I honestly believe that the more sections rewarded will mean a far more busy forum, the less will mean it wont change. Its that simple!

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Active Teams

Game 123 (EFG) - Bayern Munich
Game 123 (EFG) - Notts County
Game 124 (HFG) - Al Nassr

sure i'll help you find them, click on your username, then click on 'search users posts'

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GAME 114 - TOULOUSE & MALAGA

Thats what i mean, no one can answer it.

SPECIFICALLY http://dictionary.cambridge.org/diction ... ecifically (Just to help you out)

''What threads and posts do you class as drivel on the game(s) forum?''

This means 'games' forum, so game 16, 117, 118 and so on. This area we are posting in is main forum as its not linked to any game in particular.

Apologies if it wasn't clear enough.

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Active Teams

Game 123 (EFG) - Bayern Munich
Game 123 (EFG) - Notts County
Game 124 (HFG) - Al Nassr

i did answer it, most of your posts have been 'specifically' drivel,

but sure lets give it a go, I've been subject to numerous cash and swap threads being hijacked or having rubbish posted on them,
which is mainly why i haven't bothered much on the forum other then to pm various people for deals and have avoided WhatsApp until 119 came out.
also i have had my squad posts in the past have an emoji or thumbs up posted under them, should they gain karma?

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GAME 114 - TOULOUSE & MALAGA

i call bull sh ite here,



on darthfritzls poll post

go back to your dictatorship

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GAME 114 - TOULOUSE & MALAGA

Ok ok let's keep this on topic lads...

Yes spam and hijacking of threads are the biggest issues, you also have multiple thread from one team in a section say... swaps.. when one is sufficient.

This will be my last post on the matter as it's a circular argument.

Karma should be introduced but in a controlled manner and not to give even more of an advantage to poor managers and greedy ones.

By that I mean, cap it so they can't get ridiculous amounts and have the rewards be minor as in no versatility sa etc...

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Wolfsburg 108, Las Palmas 112, Arsenal 114 and Torino/Molde 119

Nantes, just pointing insults just highlights your incapability to have a decent discussion mate. No need is it? Challenge opinions.

As regards to Darth's comments about the hijacking, I did mention that I thought this should result in karma lost. Also posting off topic suffer the same fate as well as attempts to bully or cause trouble. A few times my cash sales have been subject of unwanted and meaningless off topic or stupid immature faces for no reason. But they are my opinions.

I'll end my comment here with I would like all posts rewarded providing they are in a relitive topic or thread section. This will boost forum participation and activity and this is what we all want at the end of the day regardless if some choose to participate in some and not other things.

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Active Teams

Game 123 (EFG) - Bayern Munich
Game 123 (EFG) - Notts County
Game 124 (HFG) - Al Nassr

The option is to add Def or Mid or Att, not VER.



I want to keep Karma and UE points separate, and don’t want either treading on the other’s toes. As pointed out, this can be done with UE points.



Whether or not the next or other games use the ‘on list for max value is over £50M’ rule is a discussion to be had on another thread at another time.

I am alarmed that managers have not all been giving Mark the first option on all sales and swaps though. Any managers caught not doing this will instantly lose all Karma and receive a 3 week transfer ban in future.



Am interested in hearing more thoughts on these ideas.

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I think the idea of a type of parachute payment of karma points a good idea. I know we shouldn't really reward failure. But in ultra competitive games where the divisions are full someone has to go down. I think a little boost of points can help with keeping interested in the game. As no one wants to pay to lose every week. I don't think points should be rewarded for teams failing to gain promotion tho. I like the ideas for points 1 and 2 also.


I'm really keen to hear what other ideas are out there for karma points? I glad the top prize is adding either def mid or att to a player and not VER.

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