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 Post Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:20 pm 
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Excellent idea. Legends not able to be called up for first x amount of turns


I don't think Mr Rone is saying legends shouldn't be called up for the first x amount of turns, just that international squads should only start with current day players which I agree is a good idea.

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 Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:23 am 
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On the international turns, there's a list of top players by OA & AR and it has their clubs on it. A huge advantage

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 Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:51 am 
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dunky wrote:
On the international turns, there's a list of top players by OA & AR and it has their clubs on it. A huge advantage


Correct, which is why I made an earlier suggestion to remove international management from 119.

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 Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 9:51 am 
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International management will be good in this game.

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 Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:09 am 
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Perhaps disable it for a few turns, make people graft and find players through scouting

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 Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:28 am 
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International management is a huge part of the appeal to this game I think,

Pele and Fat Ronaldo
Maradona and Messi
Ronaldo and Eusebio

The combinations are endless!

If you're lucky enough to get a national side, you're lucky enough to collect the scouts that come with it.

Im all for measures to ensure fairness in the game, and little tweaks here or there to help, but interfering with a huge part of the game in international management to achieve it is not an option in my opinion.

If the game was to be 100% fair, then every team would start with an even amount of players with identical squad value and cash to spend, where's the fun in that?!

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 Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:38 am 
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If your an international manager you should be able to play whoever you want, however I do agree the legend players should not appear in the squads when first scouted to take away that easy option.

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 Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:42 am 
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But it is a luck of the draw and randomly allocated as far as I can see so I think it should be at least delayed. Certainly needs thinking about.

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 Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:34 am 
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Dan_13 wrote:
International management is a huge part of the appeal to this game I think,

Pele and Fat Ronaldo
Maradona and Messi
Ronaldo and Eusebio


I think I've just let out a little wee seeing these. Imagine Roberto Baggio & Paolo Rossi, Shearer & Lineker, Van Basten & Cruyff & Muller & Muller. I think my 10 actions spaces in the first week will be applying for countries. :lol:

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 Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:25 pm 
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Season 1 isn't it the Euros anyways - so the likes of Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay etc won't be able to get managed?


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 Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:26 pm 
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Which I think then would work fine as the best European players will already be at clubs - and come season 2 the best South American legends should have been found by scouting.


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 Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:33 pm 
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potential

When you use UE points to increase a players potential, that player can’t be transferred for 8 weeks
no pot player to be sold for cash
pot players can only be sold once per season between clubs

internationals

start with a set squad of players with only a few of the better legends included
do not list these missing legends on turn sheet until week 13 so as to not give the heads up on scouting to that manager although manager can call up any legends he finds himself or are found and signed by another team and are now know to everybody

scouting

only except bids on scouted player if that team has himself scouted the players team
any doing otherwise will have been deemed to have shared a scouted find and will get a 2 turn transfer ban

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 Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:30 pm 
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liverpool wrote:
potential

When you use UE points to increase a players potential, that player can’t be transferred for 8 weeks
no pot player to be sold for cash

pot players can only be sold once per season between clubs

internationals

start with a set squad of players with only a few of the better legends included
do not list these missing legends on turn sheet until week 13 so as to not give the heads up on scouting to that manager although manager can call up any legends he finds himself or are found and signed by another team and are now know to everybody

scouting

only except bids on scouted player if that team has himself scouted the players team
any doing otherwise will have been deemed to have shared a scouted find and will get a 2 turn transfer ban


Love the ideas in Red. Not bothered about the restrictions on internationals as I don't hardly scout them. Don't like the POT player cant be transferred more than once as it restricts what many of the wheeler dealer type of managers enjoy.

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 Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:36 pm 
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wheeler dealer type of manager has always been a pet hate of mine to be honest nothing worse than being outbid for a player you really need only to see the manager that outbid you put the guy up for swap the very next week

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liverpool wrote:
wheeler dealer type of manager has always been a pet hate of mine to be honest nothing worse than being outbid for a player you really need only to see the manager that outbid you put the guy up for swap the very next week


Totally agree with you, but sadly there are a fair few in the game and always will be. So I don't think restricting them of there own enjoyment is right.

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 Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:55 pm 
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Not having National management isn't an option. There are so many great legendary national sides, it would be wrong to not let managers compete against each other with them.

National squads not containing, or containing a limited number of legends I'm not a fan of. It feels wrong and messy.

What is possible is disabling national team seam scouting and management for 1-3 weeks.

I've never really had a problem with national team scouting, but if enough people are in favour of it, it's something that can be looked at.

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Definitely in favour of that, Ben. Scouting an international side is like a one-stop shop for the high OA players.
I have no issue with international management being a part of the game but would like to see players only appear in the report once they have been transferred into the game. A manager could then guide England to the obligatory title without receiving a scouting advantage over those not fortunate to be given a country to control.

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 Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:49 pm 
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ronem wrote:
Definitely in favour of that, Ben. Scouting an international side is like a one-stop shop for the high OA players.
I have no issue with international management being a part of the game but would like to see players only appear in the report once they have been transferred into the game. A manager could then guide England to the obligatory title without receiving a scouting advantage over those not fortunate to be given a country to control.


Well said, totally agree!

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Thumbs up here too

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Agreed also.

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