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Martin B
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 Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 7:55 pm |
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Been thinking and had an idea about UE introducing a Honours Board. Seeing as certificates seem to have dried up I do think there should still be some kind of recognition for those who win the Champions League in HFG format, after all this is the ultimate prize everybody plays to win.
My idea would be quite a simple one, each year there is usually one HFG, sometimes two will overlap such as 112 and 117 still going at the moment but my idea is quite simple in that each year the Champions League winners of the HFG can join the honours board.
For example 2016's honours board additions would be the two winners from Game 117 Seasons 1 and 2 and the two winners from Game 112 whichever seasons they were running and just keep it as simple as - year, team and manager name.
Perhaps each time you win The Champions League in an HFG the manager could also receive a small trophy like you would from playing for your sunday league team at presentation night?
Think of it as an honours board like at Lords in cricket each time a bowler takes 5 wickets in an innnings. UE could potentially backdate this to the start of Game 87 or whenever the first HFG was (but without the tophies) or start afresh. It could even be a chance to recognise those managers no longer with us who could also be added too.
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 1:40 pm |
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Great idea. Give us a target to aim for that is recognised. But I would scrap the trophy as that would just mean more outlay for UE, the honours board should be enough of a prize in my opinion. All HFG Champions League winners from all HFG games would chalk up some top sides I bet.
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Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2017 5:33 pm |
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A problem with an honours board, is that there have been so many seasons in so many winners in so many different games in the past, and we haven't kept records of all of them. I take the point that the Champions League in a HFG could seen as the ultimate prize, but it feels wrong to those winners on an honours board and not do so for the Champions League winners in 118, or any of the other games we run/have run.
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Martin B
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 1:07 am |
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Admin wrote: A problem with an honours board, is that there have been so many seasons in so many winners in so many different games in the past, and we haven't kept records of all of them. I take the point that the Champions League in a HFG could seen as the ultimate prize, but it feels wrong to those winners on an honours board and not do so for the Champions League winners in 118, or any of the other games we run/have run. I'm sure between the UE community we could check our old turns to track down previous winners from previous games at least in the HFG's going back to Game 87. Perhaps it's something that could be kept to HFG's then for the reason you just stated, it's difficult to track all the winners in non-HFG's so if kept to HFG only it also becomes another reason to join an HFG the chance to join an exclusive honours board. Maybe a sepeate honours board could be kept for non-HFG's and started from a certain point in time onwards either from Game 118 or as far back as the records are held or collected from the UE community?
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Martin B wrote: Admin wrote: A problem with an honours board, is that there have been so many seasons in so many winners in so many different games in the past, and we haven't kept records of all of them. I take the point that the Champions League in a HFG could seen as the ultimate prize, but it feels wrong to those winners on an honours board and not do so for the Champions League winners in 118, or any of the other games we run/have run. I'm sure between the UE community we could check our old turns to track down previous winners from previous games at least in the HFG's going back to Game 87. Perhaps it's something that could be kept to HFG's then for the reason you just stated, it's difficult to track all the winners in non-HFG's so if kept to HFG only it also becomes another reason to join an HFG the chance to join an exclusive honours board. Maybe a sepeate honours board could be kept for non-HFG's and started from a certain point in time onwards either from Game 118 or as far back as the records are held or collected from the UE community? Im not sure there is much point in a non-HFG honours board because as you stated HFG is the harder game where as I would say EFG is for the more fun, non serious managers and is considerably easier than HFG. To reward those games with the same honours as a HFG would be like treating a division 1 promotion win with a premier league title win which in my opinion isnt classed as an equal achievement.
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:37 pm |
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To be honest if you managed a lower level team in an EFG then that can be harder than in a HFG especially in the days before points. The big teams then had it too easy and if you conquered the big boys with Accrington Stanley or teams of such ability then you are a genius.
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daveyh wrote: To be honest if you managed a lower level team in an EFG then that can be harder than in a HFG especially in the days before points. The big teams then had it too easy and if you conquered the big boys with Accrington Stanley or teams of such ability then you are a genius. What's your thoughts on Dortmund's idea though?
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 5:53 pm |
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All i hope is anyone who is banned from ue is removed from the roll of honour , only seems right!!! 
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 6:22 pm |
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I don't want to see this introduced.
The winning of a Champions League is not the pinnacle to every manager. I would be delighted to lose every champions league game 6-0 if it meant league success because for me that is the game. Winning the title is my aim not a cup competition.
We then need to address the fact that not every Champions League win is equal. A season one win is nowhere near as much of an achievement as a season 2 win. Season 1 requires qualification by wallet. Only a small handful of sides ever win it in season one and it is laughable to suggest that it is more of an achievement than a season 1 league title in France by any side not named PSG (or the no-challenge option as I like to call them).
Furthermore, a season 3 CL win, when the game is competitive, cannot be compared to a season 6 win when there are just a handful of clubs being handed gimme victories against computer-managed sides.
I have a Roll of Honour in my head. I know who the very best managers are and they might not be the ones who strike it lucky on any given Sunday but class isn't demonstrated by a certificate.
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:09 pm |
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Maybe a poll?
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 7:14 pm |
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Wolfsburg 117 wrote: daveyh wrote: To be honest if you managed a lower level team in an EFG then that can be harder than in a HFG especially in the days before points. The big teams then had it too easy and if you conquered the big boys with Accrington Stanley or teams of such ability then you are a genius. What's your thoughts on Dortmund's idea though? Being honest its not something that interests me as past games are past games and to find a suitable table for all would be difficult to do. It has been done unofficially before and managers never agreed. Whilst some managers have won this that are the other I find that some wins or success in my eyes is better than others. A team in 107 De Graafschap blew us away with players and an unorthodox formation, and that makes you stand up and take notice. I think everyone that has won something should always have that little self satisfaction and that for me is enough. Then again I struggle to remember what happened this afternoon so previous wins are a distant memory 
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Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2017 8:02 pm |
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Wolfsburg 117 wrote: Maybe a poll? why you so keen for this wolfsburg, as it wont effect you you have only been in two games  i agree with mark rone there is no need everyone knows who the mangers to beat, whos had the most success etc so what you may have a few more certificates than the next bloke everyone has different targets in the game!
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chelsea118 wrote: Wolfsburg 117 wrote: Maybe a poll? why you so keen for this, as it wont effect you you have only been in two games i agree with mark there is no need everyone knows who the mangers to beat, whos had the most success etc so what you may have a few more certificates than the next bloke everyone has different targets in the game! Keen as I'm a avid football manager and soccer manager player and both of those have this feature which is hugely popular. Certificates are lost and thrown away where as a honours board wouldn't be and creates history long after we are gone. Plus I plan on winning the champions league this season 
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 9:56 am |
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If somebody does this then I won't step in there way despite it not being for me. Think it will be a lot of hard work and Martin has done one before I believe, he must have more patience than me.
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Posted: Wed Jan 25, 2017 11:20 am |
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Late last night Dortmund said that he has all the information now as he's been in all the hard format games. Fair play to him. Couldn't have had darts last night
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Wolfsburg 117 wrote: Im not sure there is much point in a non-HFG honours board because as you stated HFG is the harder game where as I would say EFG is for the more fun, non serious managers and is considerably easier than HFG. To reward those games with the same honours as a HFG would be like treating a division 1 promotion win with a premier league title win which in my opinion isnt classed as an equal achievement. I've only played three games 115, 117 and 118 but the HFG one I've actually found it easier to compete against the better teams with a rubbish starting squad. I'd like to be a big team in an EFG and balls it up for sure. But as a small side in an EFG I think it would be far harder to win anything. Look at 117 some of the best teams in Spain now are teams that are "smaller" sides - Elche, Levante, Deportivo, Getafe, Zaragoza etc.
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For those that didn't know, there was a guy in game 112 called Maxi who kept loads of records and created a hall of fame with all the cup and league winners and things like that. Albeit he was a total bell end but if anyone still kept in contact with him they could maybe get some old records?
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