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 Post Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:12 pm 
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EGO - Ego - Ibrahimovic - Always believes in himself and never loses confidence

DIS - disruptive - Balotelli

INJ - injury prone - Sturridge and Wilshere

CHA/PER - Character or Personality - Having some characters in the dressing room help build team spirit, help their team mates relax and get them up for the game. Examples - Peter Crouch

LOY - Loyalty - Ryan Giggs, Jamie Carragher

VER - Versatile (can play defence, midfield and attack) - Gareth Bale?

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 Post Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:14 pm 
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Which players should start with these? Not sure if all will be added yet, but with time running out before 118 starts, suggestions would be appreciated.

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Versatility could be added to a CB such as vertonghen of Spurs

He gets his fair share of goals, can play as a defensive midfielder and when spurs are chasing the game they sling him up front. A TM?!

EGO - Yaya Toure - spat his dummy out when he didn't get a cake!!

LOY - Jsmie Vardy - could have left Leicester, decided to stay on

Would having EGO mean they couldn't have Gsi etc etc??
As Christiano Ronaldo has got the biggest ego of all

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LOY Should go to players like Wayne Rooney and Jamie Vardy people who have been at the club for years

disruptive players like Sissoko from Newcastle and Sakho from Liverpool who have told people that they want to leave the club

INJ - injury prone - Sturridge and Wilshere I like And Phil Jones has to be on there as well.

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Will these be randomly assigned to ROTW clubs?

Going through every squad could take a while?

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 Post Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:22 am 
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Versatility could be added to a CB such as vertonghen of Spurs

He gets his fair share of goals, can play as a defensive midfielder and when spurs are chasing the game they sling him up front. A TM?!

EGO - Yaya Toure - spat his dummy out when he didn't get a cake!!

LOY - Jsmie Vardy - could have left Leicester, decided to stay on

Would having EGO mean they couldn't have Gsi etc etc??
As Christiano Ronaldo has got the biggest ego of all


I haven't seen as much of Spurs as some have. I know some defenders are played up front in desperation some times. It doesn't mean they are accomplished enough there to be considered a forward. I don't know if this is the case with Vertonghen?

Some players could arguably have 3 or 4 SAs. In those cases, we have to go with the most dominant.

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 Post Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:25 am 
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LOY Should go to players like Wayne Rooney and Jamie Vardy people who have been at the club for years

disruptive players like Sissoko from Newcastle and Sakho from Liverpool who have told people that they want to leave the club

INJ - injury prone - Sturridge and Wilshere I like And Phil Jones has to be on there as well.


I wouldn't say players like Sissoko and Sakho would qualify for DIS. I'm thinking of repeat offenders like Barton, Adebayor and Diouf.

If players become unhappy and want to leave the club, they could temporarily get the DIS SA, not quite forcing the manager to sell them, but making it hard to keep him.

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 Post Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:32 am 
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WbZ wrote:
Will these be randomly assigned to ROTW clubs?

Going through every squad could take a while?


ROTW clubs, and generated players may get some. We're reluctant to randomly assign LOY to real players for the same reason we don't randomly assign HEI. It could look very silly if a player who has played for 7 different Italian clubs got it.

We've had a lot of good suggestions pmd through, which are much appreciated.

The ones we need most help with now are CHA and LOY.

English teams like Burnley I'm sure have some players who would qualify for LOY, and maybe some that could have CHA. If you're familiar with them and think this player should have this or that, let us know.

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I'm Wigan 118
I would suggest Max Power and Craig Morgan personality
Michael Jacobs versatility possibly

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How about all Red Bull Salzburg players get LOY or EGO?

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Jack Colback and Paul Dummet have the special ability of being complete DOGshit at trying to play football

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Bari 112 Hibs 114 wrote:
ack Colback and Paul Dummet have the special ability of being complete DOGshit at trying to play football


not saying i agree with you but dummet left a while ago and i've just put colback up for swap

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 Post Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 7:47 pm 
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I have to say that this thread is daft.
It's all very well gleaning this info but it all pertains to players in the English setup. England is just 12.5% of UE and is already over rated ( Exhibit one - the enviable record at international level).
You are going to have to extend these new add-ons to every side across the game and it's going to be far from scientific when we get to Niort or Brescia! It doesn't have to have any real life bearing so let's give INJ to Messi, FLA to Titus Bramble and NAN to Rooney.

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Mark, I'm sure you're not alone in not minding so much about the accuracy of the SA placement. But there are many others want the game to be as realistic as possible.

The English league will always be more accurate than the other leagues, as that is the league we in UE (and I'm sure the vast majority of our managers) are more familiar with. We do our best to make every league and team up to date, but of course there are limits on our knowledge and time.

There maybe managers who know more than us about which players from Niort, Brescia or any other team deserve SAs. If there are please step forward, as other have already.

LOY and CHA are the ones we need most help with, so any thoughts on who is deserving of them are welcome.

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Totti (Roma since 1992)
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De Rossi (Roma since 1991)

Both should have LOY

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Mark, I'm sure you're not alone in not minding so much about the accuracy of the SA placement. But there are many others want the game to be as realistic as possible.

The English league will always be more accurate than the other leagues, as that is the league we in UE (and I'm sure the vast majority of our managers) are more familiar with. We do our best to make every league and team up to date, but of course there are limits on our knowledge and time.

There maybe managers who know more than us about which players from Niort, Brescia or any other team deserve SAs. If there are please step forward, as other have already.

LOY and CHA are the ones we need most help with, so any thoughts on who is deserving of them are welcome.


Out of curiosity what would LOY bring to the game? Lets say Rooney starts with LOY and the Man Utd manager wants to swap him for Messi? Rooney's loyalty to Man Utd ends in an instant and so does he lose the LOY SA? In which case LOY would need to be something extra special for the Man Utd manager to decide that Rooney with LOY would be worth keeping for the rest of his career.

I'm not suggesting you have the answer, you probably don't but if you do then great but we'd need to see what effect having a player with LOY actually does to the game? Is it a glorified version of LEA? Is it LEA with perks or is not related to LEA at all? I guess Morale being always high would be an effect but again how would that impact the game? Just thinking off the top of my head perhaps the player could be immune to retirement or his minimum retirement age is pushed back to something like 37 or 38 years old while he remains at the club? Of course they would still be subject to potential stat drops at the end of a season but the underlying question would still be of which players would be deserving of this? Maybe one-club players who have been at there club for x number of years?

For CHA maybe players who take to social media to engage in 'banter' could be used?

Examples for both at my team Charlton

C Solly - 25 years old, one club man been at Charlton for 14 years and even signed a new contract this summer after a season involving relegation and protests if that's not LOY I don't know what is? :lol:

J Jackson - would be ideal for CHA, captain at Charlton for a good 6+ years always engaging in social media banter and a real leader on the pitch.

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Have to agree with this lad above, but not only LOY there is others that seem to be mentioned and now possibilities just to satisfy a minority's demands. My opinion was that I was happy with the amount of SA's in the game and still getting my head around those. However I feel with all these points being handed out as well, I think we are going to see cases of new SA's being replaced on existing players and with more points being added replaced again and again. That's my worry.

As the thread is seeking opinions on players SA in 118, a game I'm not in then so I'll just add this. How about an SA Lazy?

Example of lazy players.

J Rodriguez lazy
D Berbatov lazy
Tarrabt lazy
Robinho lazy
Adebayor lazy

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If a player has LOY does that mean he can't be swapped? Other wise it kinds makes the point of it redundant.

I would just like to see the current sa's be more obvious in how they work. I've had players with say FKS and never score a single goal... similar for CFS with GSI?!

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Player with LOY care more for their club than the mercenaries that are rife in the modern game. They will put their body on the line more willingly, run a little bit further, and push themselves to the limit for their team.

If they are not wanted, they will reluctantly agree to move to another club, but they will lose the LOY SA if the do so.

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