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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 4:26 pm |
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ronem wrote: Admin wrote: Under consideration at the moment:
EGO - (confidence protection, complains early if not in the team) DIS - disruptive INJ - injury prone REL - reliable CHA - character or PER - Personality LOY - Loyalty EXP - Experienced VER - Versatile (can play defence, midfield and attack) Is there any real future in punitive SAs? I appreciate that your starting squad might be sprinkled with them but unless it was the very best players who were saddled with them, then those players would simply get bombed out. Under what circumstances would you envisage a manager spending points to make his player disruptive? Of course nobody would spend points to make their players disruptive or injury prone. I agree there is no point putting it on average players. But Wilshere and Sturridge are good enough to still be in demand despite being injury prone. I would have said Balotelli would have been in demand despite being disruptive, but I'm not so sure any more. Most of the new possible SAs are to add colour to starting squads. Some wouldn't be buyable at all (versatility definitely being one). Others may be cheaper than the existing options.
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Dinamo Tbilisi
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:50 pm |
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Balotelli might not be in demand in real life but that has no bearing on his 118 self. If you make him a top player then he'd be sought after even with the proposed new DIS SA.
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:54 pm |
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The loyalty one would only really make sense if we were to add contracts to players. I.e say they have a one season contract and the player can either re-sign or hit the open market at the end of the year. Open market could maybe be like the transfer list where everyone bids on the player and the old team would get the cash in return. The loyal player would be more likely to re-sign another year
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Dinamo Tbilisi
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 9:58 pm |
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Agreed. Unless of course, a player with Loyalty SA just refuses to be transferred?
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themouth1888
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:00 pm |
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Would a manager then be less likely to buy a player like that? Knowing they could get a huge offer only for the player to turn it down?
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Dinamo Tbilisi
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:03 pm |
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My understanding is that such a player would start with you as part of your original squad. So you would be unable to buy him. This is just my interpretation of the LOY SA.
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 10:14 pm |
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ronem wrote: My understanding is that such a player would start with you as part of your original squad. So you would be unable to buy him. This is just my interpretation of the LOY SA. I thought this also, unless you manage to keep a player for say 5+ of seasons and during this time he's been happy resulting in the SA LOY awarded perhaps?
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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2016 11:05 pm |
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Only found this thread now lol.
It all sounds great. New SAs would be great.
Not sure if this would be covered by any existing SAs, but what about SA intelligence as we know there are many smart players out there.
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Dan Pearson
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 2:02 am |
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I like these ideas loyalty is a good one but should be very rare and player must have come up through teams ranks
But if a loyalty player leaves the club he loses the loyalty S.A
Also maybe it's an S.A not bought but can be gained over time from a youth player who stays at club never loaned out and plays regularly.
I'm also 100% sure we need sweeper keeper added. This would be an addable S.A for X amount of points BUT older keepers would struggle to adapt to this as takes time and experience to develop.
Best would be an under 25yo GK who can develop into a quality SWK it would work well with POD KP tactics but would be a weakness in defensive sides where could lead to mispasses and chances for opposition.
Also consider changing IF to a winger option where right footed plays on left and cuts inside and vice versa and replace IF with F9 - false 9 as new striker option.
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Andy Davidson
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 9:38 am |
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Will any new special abilities be introduced for game 118??
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 10:25 am |
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I have to be honest and now having a good think about it I'm pretty happy with the SA's in the game at the moment as some do cover other bases and I'm still getting used to them. However the thought of SA LOY and SA EXP could be good additions but in my opinion they shouldn't be buyable. For example a player would earn EXP by playing say 100 UE games maybe, which if I'm right could take a good 4 seasons to gain. They the loyalty SA again also unbuyable could also be earned by serving a certain amount of seasons with one club. In addition to gaining it through being loyal, maybe players like John Terry, Wayne Rooney and Andy King say who have all exceeded the 10 year mark at one club start the game with this SA.
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:01 pm |
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Andy Davidson wrote: Will any new special abilities be introduced for game 118?? Yes, we will try to get at least some of them ready for 118. Dan Pearson wrote: I like these ideas loyalty is a good one but should be very rare and player must have come up through teams ranks
But if a loyalty player leaves the club he loses the loyalty S.A
Also maybe it's an S.A not bought but can be gained over time from a youth player who stays at club never loaned out and plays regularly.
I'm also 100% sure we need sweeper keeper added. This would be an addable S.A for X amount of points BUT older keepers would struggle to adapt to this as takes time and experience to develop.
Best would be an under 25yo GK who can develop into a quality SWK it would work well with POD KP tactics but would be a weakness in defensive sides where could lead to mispasses and chances for opposition.
Also consider changing IF to a winger option where right footed plays on left and cuts inside and vice versa and replace IF with F9 - false 9 as new striker option. I like this. Loyalty can't be bought, and if he is transferred (which he will accept reluctantly) , he loses the loyalty SA. Have been thinking about sweeper keeper. It's more of an alternative position, than an SA. False 9 could arguably be a new position, as could full backs that step into central midfield, but they are all rare. In any case, adding new positions to the game is a fundamental change and would be a lot of work. Possibly something for the future, but am focusing on changes for 118 at the moment.
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:02 pm |
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muscles4851 wrote: Only found this thread now lol.
It all sounds great. New SAs would be great.
Not sure if this would be covered by any existing SAs, but what about SA intelligence as we know there are many smart players out there. Think intelligence is covered by judgement and vision.
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 3:47 pm |
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Experience.
We know a lot of managers try and fill their squads with young players, shipping out the older ones when they can. Experience, and the potential to develop experience, could help change this, somewhat.
What we are thinking, is giving EXP to a lot of players. Everyone 31 and above automatically gets it. 29 and 30 years olds have a 50% chance of developing it at the end of season (or at the start of a new game).
Amongst other things, for each EXP player in your starting 11, you will get the equivalent of 1 extra hour spent studying the opposition.
Please let us know your thoughts about this.
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:35 pm |
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Admin wrote: Experience.
We know a lot of managers try and fill their squads with young players, shipping out the older ones when they can. Experience, and the potential to develop experience, could help change this, somewhat.
What we are thinking, is giving EXP to a lot of players. Everyone 31 and above automatically gets it. 29 and 30 years olds have a 50% chance of developing it at the end of season (or at the start of a new game).
Amongst other things, for each EXP player in your starting 11, you will get the equivalent of 1 extra hour spent studying the opposition.
Please let us know your thoughts about this. I think it's a great way of keeping older players in the game. I'm assuming this would increase their value aswell??
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 5:42 pm |
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Admin wrote: Experience.
We know a lot of managers try and fill their squads with young players, shipping out the older ones when they can. Experience, and the potential to develop experience, could help change this, somewhat.
What we are thinking, is giving EXP to a lot of players. Everyone 31 and above automatically gets it. 29 and 30 years olds have a 50% chance of developing it at the end of season (or at the start of a new game).
Amongst other things, for each EXP player in your starting 11, you will get the equivalent of 1 extra hour spent studying the opposition.
Please let us know your thoughts about this. Great idea, I like this. A question though, what if a team was to put an alternative SA on a player who already has SA EXP on him, does that mean his SA EXP will be replaced?
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:42 pm |
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If all players over 30 were to get EXP, Mark, then it wouldn't need to appear as an SA and wouldn't compromise any other SA.
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Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2016 6:51 pm |
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Admin wrote: Experience.
We know a lot of managers try and fill their squads with young players, shipping out the older ones when they can. Experience, and the potential to develop experience, could help change this, somewhat.
What we are thinking, is giving EXP to a lot of players. Everyone 31 and above automatically gets it. 29 and 30 years olds have a 50% chance of developing it at the end of season (or at the start of a new game).
Amongst other things, for each EXP player in your starting 11, you will get the equivalent of 1 extra hour spent studying the opposition.
Please let us know your thoughts about this. best idea this experience one
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 10:36 am |
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Wolfsburg 117 wrote: Great idea, I like this. A question though, what if a team was to put an alternative SA on a player who already has SA EXP on him, does that mean his SA EXP will be replaced? ronem wrote: If all players over 30 were to get EXP, Mark, then it wouldn't need to appear as an SA and wouldn't compromise any other SA. The plan is that only players with room would get the EXP SA, and it wouldn't replace ones already there.
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Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2016 11:06 am |
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I know this has been mentioned before and I can't recall the exact answer and understand would take a lot to implement
But I think a turn 0 is needed as a small preseason. Allow a one turn friendly arranged from T26 those who don't pick an opponent get randomly assigned team who also didn't pick.
Maybe lower all players fitness and it's your job to to boost the fitness before T1. Maybe a small addition would be a team meeting where select season target and this can affect team morale?
And the important part is we get to pick our teams per opponent for Turn 1.
I think a Turn 0 preseason would be popular if put it the players.
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