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In game 117 I feel there has been a little bit of a points glut. This is with Xmas points and loyalty points. Now I'm a big fan of both and don't want them stopped but it has resulted in a lot of potential players and SA players.
My idea is this, could it be looked into, to allow managers to raise untrainable stats with the use of their points. Like, use 7/8 points to raise vision on a good PL with 8 vision. Or turn a player to 9 speed from 8.
Not everyone would take the option but some would and it could stop the market being flooded with pot players. I've heard of teams with 15/16 pot players.

Just an idea. Thanks.

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This is more exceedingly good than a Mr Kipling's French Fancy.

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Dinamo Tbilisi 122

Belting idea that 8 points per point

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Good idea.

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Brilliant idea, I agree - about 8 points per stat rise but maybe limit it to only once per season

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Fantastic idea. A thumbs up from me.

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Love the idea mate. Ue good point for U to look into

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Something to consider. It certainly seems popular so far, but any more thoughts on the idea are welcome.

My initial thought is that is is a possibility, but not allowing the upgrade of a 9 to a 10.

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That's fine if you have a player with 8 speed and want it to 9 is good. But I also wouldn't recommended 9 to 10

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How about positional training for ue points, results wouldn't have to be granted on all the 4 stats, but even if one or 2 of the stats improved by 1 point it would be well worth while. But limit it to say a couple of times per season, or even new position training

Yes I like that.
1. No upgrade of 9 to 10.
2. Limited usage, 1/2 per season.
3. Make it quite expensive. 8 points might do it. It would need to be expensive because 1 rise in PV and oa could add a lot of value to the player.

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Sampdoria 123
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Do you mean train a midfielder in defence or attack?
Or do you mean use points to train multiple stats at once?

If it's the latter then I'd say that sounds a lot like adding potential.

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Sampdoria 123
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Good idea but needs to be expensive as you're transforming a player's capabilities so got to be looking at about 10 pts IMO.

But if a player is able to gain an untrainable to increase then UE will need to be consistent and allow the other SA's like HEI and LTS to be bought again as well. After all if a player's ability to run faster can be increased so should the ability to take a long throw in.

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But not the ability to grow in size lol.

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Sampdoria 123
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I like the idea of points for to make untatinables better.

Defo need to limit it and would stop every team have a full team of POTS come season 3 and when that happens you just CANNOT sell players as nobody needs them

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I'm thinking more along the lines of say training a cm across his am stats rather than training him into cb. Also think this training should have a timescale in which the player training is not allowed to be selected for matches

I like the untrainables idea but as others said needs to be heavily limited, particularly now you can buy ue points.

I've a couple of ideas on the basis that this should be quite rare and a real investment. We don't want to have a situation where this becomes a bargaining aspect on swap deals (eg. like this guy but can you make him a 10 etc.):

- An EOS only option like the stadium increase options
- once selected takes x amount of turns before it comes through
- like buying pot unlocks the training potential but this would unlock the ability to train on a a specific untrainable. You then need to train that stat to get the rise.
- only available to a player who has earned the loyalty sa with your team

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This is a good point.

I do like the idea though.

like it, but as already stated, needs to be limited to once per player per season. as for the cost maybe from 4 to 5 = 4pts 5 to 6 = 5pts 6 to 7 = 6pts 7 to 8 = 7pts 8 to 9 = 8pts 9 to 10 = n/a ok not a lot of managers will use ue pts to lift up a 4 to 5 but at least give them the option.

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If we start with complicated restrictions then just bin it. This idea only has appeal at the top of the market. The ability to push a PL to 10 vision would be a great use of points. Not so sure that making an 8 into a 9 would have the same appeal.
You need to consider that some positions don't use untrainable stats to create their PV so adding POT for 7 points theoretically gives you four goes at PV improvement.

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