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An idea for the future - we’re considering adding a visible ‘Pressure’ value for each team, which will change as the season goes on.

Big teams like Man Utd always have to deal with a pretty high level of pressure (giving the smaller teams an advantage). If they lose a couple of games, it can go up fast, if they recover and go on a better run it can lessen.

Smaller or just promoted teams have a much lower level of pressure, until they become embroiled in a relegation battle, at which point it goes up. Teams like Leicester who were doing much better than everyone expected last season, played without pressure, unburdened by expectation for much of the season.

Be interested to hear your thoughts on this, and how you think teams experience more or less pressure under different circumstances.

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The voice of Ultimate Europe...

Very interesting although being honest I am not sure I fully behind it but guess I don't know the true reflection yet.

Could teams with less pressure play more expansive football with having no fear? So tactically you may be able to use this as an advantage?

Would Leicester this season be considered under pressure despite only seemingly interested in the Champions League?

Would teams be under less pressure coming to the end of the season and they have secured top flight football for next season and would they feel less pressure but be less committed to get a result (on there holidays early).

How would it affect a managers role and would we be able to influence anything to ensure our team isn't overawed before the game starts and is lost in the tunnel?

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What will the end outcome be?
What effect will it have ?
What happens if pressure reaches the maximum it can reach?

Will it impact players at the club?

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Good to try to introduce new idea which I think you have been brilliant overall last few years but I don't think this is a good one personally. I think big clubs should perform better and deal with pressure and small clubs are expected to have to scout/train/buy better etc, that's the draws of managers going for a big or small clubs....whichever you prefer.

You could argue big players at big clubs should deal with pressure better anyway in real life ?

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I'd assume it would affect morale and confidence and in turn affect stats initially AR might increase but long term can affect oa and PV.

and would be an added challenge to work/manage around thism

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It's in the idea stage at the moment so nothing is set. It would have a negative effect on some players performances. Some players could deal with it better than others, and enough players with SA's like EXP, LEA, DET and CHA would help protect against it.

I don't know how much effect it will have at any level yet, but even at it's highest level it won't have the effect it seems to have on the England team.

Wasn't planning on it working more for one tactic over another, Leicester for example played defensive attack on the break football.

Leicester being league champions would have a much higher level of pressure than they had last season.

Yes, smaller teams who stay clear of the relegation battle would have less pressure.

Yes, pressure could effect players confidence and morale if it gets too much.

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Although I applaud the massive efforts that have been put into game improvements, I'm not sure that this one is a goer.
Firstly, although you say that there is more pressure on Leicester this time around, how many times have we heard pundits say that Team X are favourites as they have been there and done it. There is a maxim for everything ('Absence makes the heart grow fonder' yet 'Out of sight, out of mind'!

The reason that I'm in the 'NO' camp is this. This is UE. No team is big and no team is small (at least in HFG) as Messi can sign for Partick Thistle etc.
You could have a European Cup Final between Real Madrid and Dunfermline and there can be no level of expectation as it is quite possible for Dunfermline to be sporting a team full of real life Real Madrid players. We would simply be attaching the pressure to a team name rather than to any true condition.

I accept that this might be a reasonable addition in an EFG where the closed shop of big clubs exists.

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Most teams who have been there done it before, have been there or there about for the previous few seasons and have dealt with the pressure. Leicester were a one off.

Maybe it could be based purely on the previous season's league position rather than how big a reputation a team has.

I'm not sure if I like the idea or not. It punishes teams going through a bad spell and doesn't hurt teams when they are on a good run. But it does make it harder for teams to dominate season faster season, and harder for big teams in the first season. And it would encourage teams to make sure they have enough experienced players etc to cope better when the pressure is high.

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I'm with Mark on this, i think it's great that new ideas are being discussed and also introduced but given the cloud of SA's that have joined I think the game itself is pretty adequate the way it is and needs to gel and mangers to get used to it. I personally think if you're looking to better games then maybe look In the areas of participation, busyness and also possibly look to update the game, booklet, forum in to a more modern place with new features, pictures, layout and that.

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Had a bit of a think about this.
I wonder if it might be possible to introduce levels of expectation rather than pressure?
For example, if at the start of season 1 in an EFG, the managers of Real and Barcelona were told that the minimum acceptable level of achievement was to win La Liga which, obviously, means at least one is a failure. Sides who failed to achieve would get their DCs reduced to 40% and placed under a transfer embargo until they had risen to 50%.
My thoughts are that, at present, there exists a culture where you can buy success. Managers can grab the big clubs in an EFG by virtue of their wallet. They can then bathe in the illusion of being good at the game because a big club in a tiny pond can't fail. The HFG has the leveller of debt but the EFG, as I have said before, encourages a clique of sides who swap amongst themselves and monopolise the game which can leave the rest as passengers.
I'm all in favour of anything which can bring about more parity or at least, stymie the glory hunter.

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Couldn't of put this better myself

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Some interesting replies.. If i'm honest... I'm with the idea but in a different way.

I feel HFG should have the word "Hard" emphasised ALOT more then what it is now.

The above comment in regards to challenges is the perfect example.
- Top clubs should be asked to win the league... // Every club should have a minimum expectation.
- This can then effect the players accordingly as UE have suggested in regards to "Pressure"...
Some players may think trying to win the league is too ambitious some may thrive under it and make em play better - Talking to them will allow you to understand what is wrong.
- Season 2, failure to win the league would be ofcourse DC% falling, however, if you lost the league by goal difference or 1 point etc it should be a little less then 40% i feel that is a bit harsh...
- Transfer embargo is always something i wanted added, however this is UE and i think the freedom to buy and sale players EVERY week is why alot of people play non-stop. (However i am still for this idea or at least a punishment towards the manager for failing to achieve there requirements).

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i agree with that statement.... a HFG should be made more difficult... as already said a deep wallet shouldn't buy you success. you need to earn it. i will support most things that bring this to fruition.

only being allowed so many swaps/loans in a season
having no more that a specified number of potentials in your teams..... maybe 2 or 3 max per team giving you 6/9 if you manage all your teams.
overdraft charges to be higher after a certain amount of time, possibly double after 4 weeks.
penalties for infringement of the rules.... wages cap? transfer embargoes?

let's make life hard for all managers in a HFG and let the cream rather than the wallet size rise to the top.


ok flame away.

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Personally I would like to see all games go into a HFG style - Perhaps in the EFG the debt wouldn't be as large for the bigger clubs?

For example in 118 - even a young player with potential and an SA + cash cannot grab you a star.
As the big teams have no need to weaken their squads. Or at least the smaller teams to have a lot more cash?

I find I'm buying decent scouted players and paying a lot to get them but nobody else wants them!

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A lot of very good and interesting ideas. Keep them coming.

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Didn't you excercise this concern with a huge side you had previously with a fellow huge premier league club? Yet you agreed with mark here. However Mark, I do agree. I noticed this on a few occasions in 117, so may I propose a specific amount of deals maximum per season with each club to prevent this from occurring more frequent. 3 could be a good idea.

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Adding pressure is a great idea.

Anything more REAL I like.

Big name players not getting a game should demand transfers and more players should disagree with managers etc.

Big name players at smaller clubs should demand transfers etc.

Would test us managers no end.

In HFG's I think the challenge is a hard but fair one for teams starting heavily in debt. What people may not realise is clubs the heaviest in debt can lose £5m A WEEK on interest until real inroads are made into clearing the debt. That £5m is worth a decent squad player you could sell for cash so in my own opinion no major changes are needed to the HFG game where the biggest clubs are concerned.

If we're talking changes to the HFG i'd like to see a fairer spread of UE points. The range of points allocated should be greater than 50 and a far bigger allocation than than points awarded to teams in Europe etc.

One thing I would like UE to consider in future games is not for English teams to monopolise UE the way they do for real. I always feel in an HFG top traditional European sides like PSG, Bayern, AC Milan etc who while not as strong as Real Madrid and Barcelona, should still be on a par with the top English teams as not everybody wants to have to manage in England if they want to start heavily in debt with few options available for non English teams.

I'd also like to see Directors Confidence fluctuate far more than it does. For example at the moment Alan Pardew must be favourite to get the sack next so his Directors Confidence in UE terms couldn't be much higher than 50% and probably lower if anything as he must be failing expectations this season to date.

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Wanted to post this seperately but how about in addition to the EFG (normal game), HFG (hard format) we have a PFG (pressure game) introduced? You would join a game you are given targets to meet for the season such as expected league finish, cup expectations etc and then come the end of the season your performance is judged by your board of directors. Should you not do well enough and fail every target then potentially you can find yourself sacked and have to take on a new team to manage?

This way I feel Pressure could be implemented in to the game as an additional product without affecting the established EFG or HFG games. I know I would be interested in such a game where the challenge is relative to the team you manage and the pressure comes with the expectations.

So how about it UE, what about a PFG?

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Yes, martin. I did touch upon the subject of targets set for each club earlier in this thread and I think that it's an interesting idea. I just wonder if it would be a difficult sell though. Imagine, you try your best, fail and get sacked and you are back to square one but also a long way from competitive at your new club. I do like the concept but just think that the shelf life might be very short.

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