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There seem to be mixed feelings as to whether it would be a good thing if making a forum post gets you a Karma point.

I can see the advantage as it would make the forum busier and managers might spend more time here then on WhassApp. I can also see the points that it might encourage some managers to post a lot/spam. Am happy to hear all opinions on this.

A few points.

The reward per post could go down relatively. In the latest draft a forum post gets you 1 point, the passive gain of Karma just for submitting your MDS is 10, and lowering an injury by a week costs 40.

It could be that for submitting an MDS you get 20 and lowering an injury costs 80, making the reward per forum post relatively less. Or even submitting an MDS gets you 30, and lowering an injury costs 160.

There could be etiquette threads in some sections of the forum like cash deals, saying there should only be one post per team per turn. If a manager is justifiably reported as spamming that forum with lots of unnecessary threads, they could lose Karma.

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If used how and when would Karma from forum posts be added?

I will set up a new section of the forum that can’t be edited– Karma. To register your account and link it to a specific team, you need to post a screen shot with your current post count and state which of your teams you wish to link it to. When you want to ‘cash out’ and convert the number posts you have made since you registered, you need to make another post stating you wish to cash out and post another screen shot of your current post count. You then need to email the office saying you wish to cash out for x points and provide a link to the thread in question.

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The voice of Ultimate Europe...

Am happy to hear any thoughts on the matter, please us this thread to discuss how and if it should happen.

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The voice of Ultimate Europe...

How will this system be workable for managers with half a dozen sides in a game? Will their Karma points be pooled? Would we have a system where I, for example, could run Ternana, Sittard and Gothenburg but exclusively use the Karma points to heal Honved?
I'm not of the belief that points for posts is workable to any great extent. It's different with transfers as they are attributable to a definite club.

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Dinamo Tbilisi 122

I think it's already been said (somewhere) that clubs will be treated separately. So your 3 clubs would accumulate their own points. Rather than you accumulating points for all 3 of them.

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I don't think all posts should accumulate karma points. Maybe just for results, squad threads etc. Where you can only gain a certain amount of points per turn. Rather then daily for posting crap no one cares about.

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Personally think its a great idea, more posts equal more activity. A manager doesn't want to post In a certain section or doesn't want to get involved in a section then he doesn't have to. Its a choice.

Like i previously posted, managers who post less often or don't bother partaking in any extra forum activities will obviously oppose to the idea and moan that others are rewarded 'more' than them as a result, where as the more frequent posters and partakers will always go with and be rewarded which is right and fair.

End of the day you don't get nothing for free in this life, so the more work you put in the more you will be rewarded. Can't be more simpler than that.

Alternatively if you wanted to look at it a different way, maybe award different amount of points for different sections, like this....

We all like results section, so maybe a post here would be 20 karma points, moving to maybe what would be second most inviting section namely swap section which could be 15, sales being 10 with General which is considered used less frequent with less interesting topics and threads banking you just a point per post peraps.

Whats everyone's thoughts?

This way the lesser posters can be rewarded the dame amount of posts as a frequent poster by just posting in only the more attractive topics.

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I see how that is workable on activity through the turn but how do UE tell which side gets the karma for a forum post. Would I get a point for Honved or Gothenburg for this post?

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Dinamo Tbilisi 122

I think that more than one point per post would be excessive. I also find the General section to be the best part of the forum.

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Dinamo Tbilisi 122

Before I state my opinion I would like to note that I am one of the highest active posters, with that said... I'm totally against the idea of points for ALL posts.

I think in principle forum activity being rewarded would be a great idea, but in a controlled manner!

For example, points could be gained for the following...

- completing turn sent section
- completing deals agreed section
- posting results in the team results section
- posting squads up in the my team part

That along with MDS sending, and the various other points made by UE would be more then sufficient!

Also the extra points for those who run forum cups etc isn't a bad idea either. Perhaps an amount for those who run it and a smaller amount for those who partake?

So say if a forum cup is run, the manager who creates and runs it earns 200 points at the end of a month or a set amount of turns, those who partake get 50 points which. Those who partake can be confirmed as having done so to ue by the manager running the side game.

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Wolfsburg 108, Las Palmas 112, Arsenal 114 and Torino/Molde 119

My concern with awarding points for squad adding is some managers on the forum cant do it, don't have the programme to add it and/or some find it needless to add the same squad each week which may have minimal changes. Thats my only concern with that.

Please don't take this as an offence bud, but i couldn't help but notice that yes overall you are one of the most posters, but since very early April you have posted just a dozen times which averages about 2 posts a week up to date. In fact all your 12 posts since April 7th were done on 4 different days of the 29 total days since. That isn't really an avid poster anymore really? which goes with my point i made a few days ago about the lesser posters tend to not want all posts to be rewarded.

So many good points but I'm reading a few opinions which looks like we could be delving to deep in to karma point rewarding when it can be made so simple. All or none for example? if it was all posts rewarded then the forum would be more active all over, rewarding certain posts and certain threads will just make those specific sections busy leaving others d.e.a.d. Pretty much like it is now. Or alternatively break down each section and reward it with different amount of points earned for each section. For example 'making a swap thread' 10 points per post and then 'posting your result' earning you 20 points ect....

I honestly believe rewarding some sections will just increase slight activity in those particular sections leaving others quiet where as rewarding all posts would create a flourish in all areas, well maybe not a flourish but certainly stuff to read and get involved in all over the forum. Those who don't want to partake in something then can just avoid those sections then. Easy.

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Points for posting daily crap totally agree with.

It adds nothing and is time consuming for someone to go through.

I like the idea of awarding points for people posting in the turn results section or running competitions. Posting just in the transfers section is far more complex as some managers do threads of one player, some do threads of one team and some teams don't ever do many transfers. If your getting points for completed transfers then you shouldn't get them twice just because you posted on the forum about it. I also don't think you should get points for posting up the team - some people prefer to keep those things a bit more secretive or as Wolfsburg says are unable to post.

I'd award points for posting in the turn results, press releases bit, maybe general if it's a sensible tactical type thread, my club section, competitions.

Though this could also work. Spamming definitely should lose karma. Mickey would be in debt.

This would be due in no part to my youngest child being born, my father in law dying of cancer and my elder son being in hospital, so no offence but i think id get a pass there by the majority even though its not anyone's business...

Not everyone can commit 100% of their time to the forum, which is exactly my point!

If you give points for every post we will descend into threads with random drivel on them due to some wanting to take advantage of the system.

As for posting squads, if people can't use photobucket then they should be fired out of a cannon.
Failing that perhaps if they get someone to do it, that would be fine also!

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Wolfsburg 108, Las Palmas 112, Arsenal 114 and Torino/Molde 119

It's a big fat NO from me despite if it became a reality then I would take massive advantage and have 1000 Karma points very quickly to give a player versatility. Whilst I love the forum being busy and vibrant that time has passed and we are at a new age where Whatsapp has taken over. I'm not a big Whatsapp poster and in fact am only in one group now as I quite honestly haven't got the time to keep up. Filling the forum with drizzle will not help and could in fact cause issues in my opinion.

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Mainz 121
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firstly, id like to say congrats darth and sorry for your loss too!

i would consider myself a newbie so I'm not sure if my comments will carry any weight, but consider this as a new players feedback.

absolutely love ue points, as a new father myself i don't have the funds to buy a big club in the pre game auctions so having ue points makes
the game far more appealing for those who get medium to small clubs.

the thought of karma points sounds very interesting if points are awarded fairly, i can't get on here a great deal as i work long hours,
busy helping my wife when i get home and looking after our little daughter, so i would hate to be punished in not being able to get similar
karma points just because i cant get online to post a lot.

it would destroy the even playing field that i think ue is trying to create.

but if certain sections are rewarded by participating in, i would certainly try harder on the forum.

again, just a newbies point of view.

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Udinese - 115

Agreed, that's my fear and already some have been pre-emptive thinking karma points start soon and posted heavily with the vast majority being nonsensical posts

I do use WhatsApp too and can be a laugh... It's also a handy tool to negotiate deals rapidly... but yes I too struggle to keep out and have to mate it lol

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Wolfsburg 108, Las Palmas 112, Arsenal 114 and Torino/Molde 119

Thanks and congrats to you!
I think it's safe to say all opinions are equally important, even a new manager.

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Wolfsburg 108, Las Palmas 112, Arsenal 114 and Torino/Molde 119

there is subtle there of maybe hardcore/casual players lol
so for a newbie so to speak, its awkward to know if you should say your peace.

btw i do love the idea of karma points to maybe a change a players name, may be time consuming etc but would be great fun!
i would love to have myself at united lol

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Udinese - 115

points should go on the following

mds being sent..........especially if deals involved

deals being put down....if you agree it not hard to put it down somewhere so you dont forget

team news.....not everybody can use there phone at work but it is interesting to hear of injuries and formation changes for that game.

turn results.....i for one like to keep track of other leagues

press releases...good section to see who brought who to there club

my squad...........handy when making offers

transfers........try to keep deals on forum

general conversations about the game should not be taken into account

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